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I want to get one, it wont be too intricate, but there will be numbers and alot of lines...

it will be about 18 cm across (7.2 in)
and about 6 cm (on average) high (2.4 in)

no colour, and not too dark, with a bit of shading

i dont have a picture, because im having trouble getting a design i like...

i am not a meaty person, just average. i can withstand quite alot of pain (my appendix burst inside of me, i didnt cry when i split my head open, which is pretty good for a girl)

also with what i have described, could any one give me a quote??

i dont expect you to be able to quote on that, but i dont know alot about tattoos..this is my first.

thanks

the average shop is going to run a 100$ an hour regardless if its color or black and white. and actually fatty spots are going to hurt more. but lower back is going to hurt more then if you went for the shoulder and on your spine will not feel great. i have a tattoo on my back and it runs across my spine and it killed

well it really depends on how nervous you are and how good the guy/girl is....also i love it when i girl has a tribal on the bottom of her back